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Language Questions / past perfect + gerund
« Last post by bookworm on Today at 01:56:41 am »
I understand that you use the past perfect if two past actions did not happen at the same time:

http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/pastperfect.html

I've learned that this usage can be optional as you can also use the simple past for both. Let's use the example given on the page:

You had studied English before you moved to New York.
You studied English before you moved to New York.

Based on the same website, both are correct. However, what if I use the gerund after before?

You had studied English before moving to New York.
You studied English before moving to New York.

Are both sentences correct?
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Language Questions / some/any
« Last post by Seiichi MYOGA on May 25, 2017, 11:39:50 pm »
Hi,

Could you please help me with the use of "some" and "any"?

(1) Not until yesterday did he give me some help.
(2) Only yesterday did he give me any help.

Are they acceptable?
Thank you in advance
Seiichi MYOGA
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Language Questions / Re: penmanship of a pupil
« Last post by admin on May 25, 2017, 02:18:33 pm »
Calligraphy?
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Language Questions / Re: penmanship of a pupil
« Last post by Darryl on May 25, 2017, 01:24:00 pm »
And this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85bqT904VWA

I really admire this guy. He knows all there is to know about penmanship. I like the way he designed his own penmanship proficiency certificate. (Skip to 13:40 if you like)
I may have posted this some time ago, but perhaps bookworm would like to have a look.
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Language Questions / Re: penmanship of a pupil
« Last post by Bertha on May 25, 2017, 12:09:23 pm »
I agree with Darryl.  Penmanship was once taught, not only as a necessity but also an art.  People who could write by hand were highly prized to work in government and business where documents, ledgers, and other records needed to be clearly read.  My dad had beautiful penmanship, full of flourishes and such. 

Here is a very interesting article about "library hand": http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/library-hand-penmanship-handwriting
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Language Questions / Re: penmanship of a pupil
« Last post by admin on May 25, 2017, 10:17:40 am »
Thanks Darryl. I am happy to be corrected as it is not a word with which I am familiar.
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Language Questions / Re: penmanship of a pupil
« Last post by Darryl on May 25, 2017, 09:37:20 am »
Can't agree there, Duncan. I believe penmanship is the quality of the handwriting. We have a few old books in our museum about the art of penmanship. I think the term is mainly American.
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Language Questions / Re: penmanship of a pupil
« Last post by admin on May 25, 2017, 08:39:00 am »
Gosh, I haven't heard that in ages. But I would say it refers to the quality of the content of the writing rather than the form of the actual hand writing.
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Language Questions / Re: possessive 's (consistency issue)
« Last post by admin on May 25, 2017, 08:37:34 am »
Lacking consistency :(
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Language Questions / penmanship of a pupil
« Last post by bookworm on May 25, 2017, 06:29:04 am »
When I was in elementary, our teachers normally used the term penmanship to refer to our handwriting. Is it an old-fashioned word? Or is it only used in rare situations?

If the term is still commonly used, how would you normally describe it?

His penmanship is (very) good / bad. 
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